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	<title>Comments on: On Google Video and the New Paradigm</title>
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	<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/</link>
	<description>A Documentary Film by Gary Hustwit</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 01:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peterb</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-34118</link>
		<dc:creator>peterb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

It seems to me that there are two separable issues here, and some of the comments you're getting may be causing you to mix the two. 

One issue is "Artists should give their work away for free".  A second, separate issue is "Filmmakers should make their works available via digital download, not simply DVD."

No one sensible -- or at least, no one that you care about -- seriously thinks you are obligated to not make a living.  But there are some of us out here (and I suspect there are many of us) who would be glad to pay $20 to see your movie, but who have _no interest whatsoever_ in paying $20 for a silly piece of plastic, that we have to wait a week to obtain, and that will clutter up our house and, eventually, get scratched and lost.

In short: I'd buy your movie immediately if it was available on iTunes (or some similar service), but I can't be troubled to purchase a DVD.  Perhaps this means I'm a very specific type of fool.  Be that as it may, that's how I'm wired. I suspect that today I am in a minority, but I also suspect that I am in a rapidly growing one.  It's no shame that you want to make a living as an artist.  It's just a shame that you haven't found a way to sell you product to (potential) customers like me in a way that gives immediate gratification to us, while preserving your income stream.

Kind regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary,</p>
<p>It seems to me that there are two separable issues here, and some of the comments you&#8217;re getting may be causing you to mix the two. </p>
<p>One issue is &#8220;Artists should give their work away for free&#8221;.  A second, separate issue is &#8220;Filmmakers should make their works available via digital download, not simply DVD.&#8221;</p>
<p>No one sensible &#8212; or at least, no one that you care about &#8212; seriously thinks you are obligated to not make a living.  But there are some of us out here (and I suspect there are many of us) who would be glad to pay $20 to see your movie, but who have _no interest whatsoever_ in paying $20 for a silly piece of plastic, that we have to wait a week to obtain, and that will clutter up our house and, eventually, get scratched and lost.</p>
<p>In short: I&#8217;d buy your movie immediately if it was available on iTunes (or some similar service), but I can&#8217;t be troubled to purchase a DVD.  Perhaps this means I&#8217;m a very specific type of fool.  Be that as it may, that&#8217;s how I&#8217;m wired. I suspect that today I am in a minority, but I also suspect that I am in a rapidly growing one.  It&#8217;s no shame that you want to make a living as an artist.  It&#8217;s just a shame that you haven&#8217;t found a way to sell you product to (potential) customers like me in a way that gives immediate gratification to us, while preserving your income stream.</p>
<p>Kind regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Woodrow Phoenix</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-32946</link>
		<dc:creator>Woodrow Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like your commenter Hugh Griffiths (#5 above), I am in the UK and I pre-ordered the DVD, so was surprised to see it pop up on the BBC before I had received my copy. Unlike him, I didn't care a bit. 

After visiting this site last summer and reading about the film, I knew I would want to see it, based on the list of interviewees. I also knew there would be tons of interesting material that would have to be left out. When Gary mentioned there would be another 90 minutes of outtakes on the DVD, it was an instantly guaranteed purchase for me right away. I didn't bother with the screening at the ICA because I was not particularly interested in listening to a debate about the film, and I didn't think I would gain anything from the experience of seeing it on a bigger screen than a 36" TV. I was perfectly content to wait for the DVD with the additional content. That's what I paid my money for and that was what justified my purchase when the DVD actually arrived, plus I can watch the main feature in any order I like and skip the bits that bore me. 

So if the film were suddenly available for free, as it was to everyone who saw it - or a significant portion of it - on the BBC, it's irrelevant to me. I expect that one day a few years from now the DVD may become substantially cheaper, but that doesn't really matter to me either. It's worth the money to me to watch what I want to watch now. As long as I feel the content justified the price that I paid for it, there's nothing else to be said. And I think it did that all right. I would have liked to see/hear more from Mike Parker and much less from Michael C Place, for instance... but there you go. I'm sure everyone has their own list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like your commenter Hugh Griffiths (#5 above), I am in the UK and I pre-ordered the DVD, so was surprised to see it pop up on the BBC before I had received my copy. Unlike him, I didn&#8217;t care a bit. </p>
<p>After visiting this site last summer and reading about the film, I knew I would want to see it, based on the list of interviewees. I also knew there would be tons of interesting material that would have to be left out. When Gary mentioned there would be another 90 minutes of outtakes on the DVD, it was an instantly guaranteed purchase for me right away. I didn&#8217;t bother with the screening at the ICA because I was not particularly interested in listening to a debate about the film, and I didn&#8217;t think I would gain anything from the experience of seeing it on a bigger screen than a 36&#8243; TV. I was perfectly content to wait for the DVD with the additional content. That&#8217;s what I paid my money for and that was what justified my purchase when the DVD actually arrived, plus I can watch the main feature in any order I like and skip the bits that bore me. </p>
<p>So if the film were suddenly available for free, as it was to everyone who saw it - or a significant portion of it - on the BBC, it&#8217;s irrelevant to me. I expect that one day a few years from now the DVD may become substantially cheaper, but that doesn&#8217;t really matter to me either. It&#8217;s worth the money to me to watch what I want to watch now. As long as I feel the content justified the price that I paid for it, there&#8217;s nothing else to be said. And I think it did that all right. I would have liked to see/hear more from Mike Parker and much less from Michael C Place, for instance&#8230; but there you go. I&#8217;m sure everyone has their own list.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-30105</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't realize it wasn't legit.
so glad I got a chance to see the film though - and after this post of yours I'm going to go out and buy it.
Thanks for making the film guys :) It's so nice to others with "font-love".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize it wasn&#8217;t legit.<br />
so glad I got a chance to see the film though - and after this post of yours I&#8217;m going to go out and buy it.<br />
Thanks for making the film guys <img src='http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> It&#8217;s so nice to others with &#8220;font-love&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Petersen</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-30103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am buying the DVD as I type this, but seeing that last sentence on your site gave me pause.

I was with you till that question.  I am buying this DVD because I believe it is worth $19.  If I did not believe this were so, I would not pay for it.  If I wanted to see it for free, I would pirate it and would likely receive a better copy than that on google video.

That something should (in the future) decrease in price (even to the point of being free) does not retroactively influence my current value assessment that it is worth my $19.  This line of reasoning should even apply to those who, for instance, bought an iPhone at $600 this summer only to see it drop to $400 a month later: if they didn't deem it worth that price, why did they pay for it?

Please do not bait your commenters with such banal arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am buying the DVD as I type this, but seeing that last sentence on your site gave me pause.</p>
<p>I was with you till that question.  I am buying this DVD because I believe it is worth $19.  If I did not believe this were so, I would not pay for it.  If I wanted to see it for free, I would pirate it and would likely receive a better copy than that on google video.</p>
<p>That something should (in the future) decrease in price (even to the point of being free) does not retroactively influence my current value assessment that it is worth my $19.  This line of reasoning should even apply to those who, for instance, bought an iPhone at $600 this summer only to see it drop to $400 a month later: if they didn&#8217;t deem it worth that price, why did they pay for it?</p>
<p>Please do not bait your commenters with such banal arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha Armacost</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-30050</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha Armacost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the film at a screening last summer in Cleveland at CIA and highly recommend it to everyone that I talk to about films, even non-designers. 
As a student, I would love to see it again and experience the extras, but even $20 is a strain on my limited means.  With all the chatter about new designers not knowing their history, viewing Helvetica is certainly one way to pique the interest of students.  I do not know if this is possible, but perhaps a streaming version or a few of the extras for free that would only be available to users accessing the file from a .edu host. Or perhaps a one time download that expires after a set time. 
On behalf of all the students that were exposed to this film, I thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the film at a screening last summer in Cleveland at CIA and highly recommend it to everyone that I talk to about films, even non-designers.<br />
As a student, I would love to see it again and experience the extras, but even $20 is a strain on my limited means.  With all the chatter about new designers not knowing their history, viewing Helvetica is certainly one way to pique the interest of students.  I do not know if this is possible, but perhaps a streaming version or a few of the extras for free that would only be available to users accessing the file from a .edu host. Or perhaps a one time download that expires after a set time.<br />
On behalf of all the students that were exposed to this film, I thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: P.Pickles</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-29530</link>
		<dc:creator>P.Pickles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOGLite... I too caught the film via Netflix. I eagerly anticipated catching it after coming across some "teaser" stuff on Veer... this was long before it was released.  

Sooo Gary if I watch it over and over again on Netflix do you get paid more? hehehe. 

Thanks for making the film! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOGLite&#8230; I too caught the film via Netflix. I eagerly anticipated catching it after coming across some &#8220;teaser&#8221; stuff on Veer&#8230; this was long before it was released.  </p>
<p>Sooo Gary if I watch it over and over again on Netflix do you get paid more? hehehe. </p>
<p>Thanks for making the film! <img src='http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Theory</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-29090</link>
		<dc:creator>Theory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that the fact Helvetica is Google's typeface of choice has something to do with this little conversation-starter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that the fact Helvetica is Google&#8217;s typeface of choice has something to do with this little conversation-starter?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-29036</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Netflix streaming is legit, we get paid for each view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Netflix streaming is legit, we get paid for each view.</p>
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		<title>By: FOGLite</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-29029</link>
		<dc:creator>FOGLite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the movie from Netflix's direct streaming player, still legit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the movie from Netflix&#8217;s direct streaming player, still legit?</p>
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		<title>By: sciencedude</title>
		<link>http://www.helveticafilm.com/newblog/2008/01/25/on-google-video-and-the-new-paradigm/#comment-28332</link>
		<dc:creator>sciencedude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted to digg:

http://digg.com/design/Helvetica_Film_Maker_Responds_To_Google_Video_Leak_Piracy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted to digg:</p>
<p><a href="http://digg.com/design/Helvetica_Film_Maker_Responds_To_Google_Video_Leak_Piracy" rel="nofollow">http://digg.com/design/Helvetica_Film_Maker_Responds_To_Google_Video_Leak_Piracy</a></p>
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